Greed and stupidity rule in councils . If you look further to the north you can see an old, crumbling seawall (due for replacement- fucking industry perpetuates itself) and you can see the water breaks right on it, there's no sand. I guess that the levees will give me a 100% guarantee that it'll never happen in my lifetime". OK this is the real one. This sets a very dangerous precedent for the rest of NSW. Can't wait to see the classic "Dick and Balls" painted on that big ugly fucker. We do, but unfortunately we also have a pervasive mindset in surfing that everything should stay the same as it was back in the good old days. I will try and find some pics of my area. "We have the Tools and imagination" Our services included: Pre-Work Detail Survey for existing surface levels at design chainages. The reef/sand nourishment are both mainly designed to widen and protect the public property, ie the beach, in front of the buried seawall. It's actually quite simple to install and get going unlike a lot of open-source software. They're not effective at all mate. A new wavepool development for the Sunshine Coast points to the future of pools in Australia. This strategy had been used in other parts of the world where poor planning placed buildings too close to the ocean. Fvck the coastline. The recently constructed Collaroy seawall yesterday failed - or passed - its first real test, depending on which side of it you stand. There are some fed govt areas that listen to this thinking. Shop unique custom made Canvas Prints, Framed Prints, Posters, Tapestries, and more. For a couple of furlongs it was quite close to the ocean but nobody cared. It is all about the road. Pre-existing or failing seawalls (if any) should be removed as part of Step 2. I dare say the neighbours are on notice too. The second DA is now here. The co-founder of Ksubiis to launch a '70s surf-inspired hotel on New South Wales' Mid North Coast. And more recently there was a local magazine piece discussing future sea level rises and the Noosa beach rock wall not being able to contain that, plus the homes along the Sunshine Beach to Peregian Beach stretch being at future risk, and councils would be needing to address that. Do you know how deep the bedrock is? It's only a temporary feature. Is Carties a perfect candidate for a coastal engineering and resculpting project that kills two birds with one stone: that fixes the harbour entrance shoaling problem and turns Carties into an actual quality wave? It's going to be carnage there this morning & yesterday afternoon even, solid 6-8ft sets on a big high, anyone heading down for a look? Please please please don't let those greedy fucks do this to Australia. Compare their prediction of how it would look with the reality shown above.. https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/climate-change-and-coastal-erosion-the-g GOR coastal erosion webinar link for today at 3pm for those interested. The Palm Beach artificial reef is now completed. I was watching the houses on the cliffs at Bilgola the other day. I also presume the view of the houses will be enhanced by the no trespassing signs in large red writing. Looks perfect for high tide backwash to spread up and down the beach. Japan may be a perfect case study. I put up links to both DAs the other day. Yes it is. (9News) But the structure has divided locals, with many describing it as an eyesore, and there are concerns it may wipe out the beach entirely. The politicians and land owners actions are an entirely separate discussion and I'm not entering into that minefield! You shouldve known by 1990. And I previously worked in a firm that did work in this area (it's not my specific expertise but I get the broad concepts). And ALL received in a 3 day period 17-19 July 2017. Granted the Reality series and Aero are ludicrously expensive at the $2,000 barrier, but they're promising to push a more immersive, satisfying VR experience that delivers on incredible fidelity. Great article highlighting the competing interests of the natural environment and local councils (which are too easily manipulated by wealthy stakeholders). A quick Google informs me that they are part of the State government, either Planning or Public Works, which was news to me because its mainly staffed by UNSW academics and is associated with the uni as a research centre. Photograph: Lewis Isaacs/The Guardian Beachfront residents back. It's important to also recognise, the wall is entirely on private land. Another week, another pumping day in the south-west of France. Highly unlikely! Seawall construction isnt mentioned. However, Craig, when you say "Comparing the swell to those of last year it wasn't of any major significance but it shows the futile efforts trying to protect property with a hard structure." https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/collaroy-na https://nationalprecast.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Collaroy-Beach https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-nsw-sydney-collaroy-surfer-pul https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article/september-2021/Living-Seawalls-in-g https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/tarzans-stormy-st-clair-skinny-dip. Hi Craig, the short answer is I'm not sure as I have been out of NSW too long. Links relating to the City of Sydney, and NSW in general - please read our rules before It breaks my heart. lilas Manly Hydraulics did the work which was used for the initial design but I am not so sure about their input on what was finally constructed. Yet for some reason the Collaroy/Narra stretch seems to get flogged not only by mother nature but by poor coastal management approaches time and again. The beach has remained under threat since that time, with additional erosion occurring during subsequent storms. @Tango Its brutalist engineering, says Gordon frankly. An increase in storm activity - particularly from the east and north-east, as has been proposed by Associate Professor Ian Goodwin - and the looming threat of sea level rise are X-factors for East Coast beachfront development. Lets do the modelling and begin building offshore wave traps and manmade surf-breaks. That's crazy stuff. This seawall will not only protect our homes but also Pittwater Rd, and the many communication and public services installed under it, from inevitable future storm events. Has any one ever suggested an off shore reef, seems like a win-win or is the sea floor unsuitable? It would be interesting to know if coastal engineers are bound by law to follow best-advice from Consulting Scientists? Collaroy Seawall Detailed Survey for construction of a new seawall in highly sensitive erosion zone. https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/collaroy-na Collaroy Stormwater Pipe Outlet a report a number of years ago by the Great Ocean Road Coastal Committee, GORCCshowed there were more than 47 areas that were of immediate concern where the ocean would cut the road. Separately at the Collaroy pool end of the beach when the walk way became unstable they just craned in these massive bags of rocks on top of each other and said job done - ugly as fuck. Will be ironic if they have to pull it down for not meeting code on the steps. No fuckers complained about the rebar reef. Perhaps the omission was because in 2002, protestors, led by Brendan Donohoe and Surfrider Foundation founder Tom Kirsop, formed a line in the sand stretching from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing the construction of any seawalls. Nothing can ever excuse extremely poor and ill-conceived designs. She had reigned as Queen for 70 years. A concrete seawall designed to stop coastal erosion is being built from Collaroy to South Narrabeen on Sydney's northern beaches. walkways to viewing platforms & beaches, selective weed management, planting, education, etc), Give nature a chance, it will rebound & stabilise dunes or else find a new equilibrium.< inland. I recently moved house [Northern-Rivers nsw] and seal-level rise was a very serious consideration of mine. So fkd how big some of those sea walls are and just ruin the towns completely and those that rely on the area, Theyve done the same thing to much of Taiwans coast, see eg: http://www.irjes.com/Papers/vol6-issue10/F61012431.pdf. At this point, the relocation business case doesn't seem to stack up. Here's the Maritime Safety Queensland website link and here's what appears to be the numerical modelling report upon which a lot of decision-making on the issue is based. Hi Mark. I have the mhl report but cannot find the link again. Seawalls have the inevitable effect of reflecting and concentrating wave energy and accelerating erosion. https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-nsw-sydney-collaroy-surfer-pul Sydney 'Living' Seawalls Not even the dude came up with half an ear! The Collaroy seawall was in part constructed after a significant storm event in 2016 eroded 50 metres along the Narrabeen and Collaroy shoreline, causing damage to waterside properties. This process must require wind over thousands of years but people and waves stomping over dunes seems like any dune system near a popular town once destroyed wont come back? Northern Beaches Council are the biggest tossers ever. If the houses go, the road goes shortly after. You would never be allowed to build an incorrectly designed bridge, so why do these people get away with doing that at our beaches ? And since there's been no budget allocated for future buy backs. I have limited state / lga experience but my perception is this broader thinking can get lost in short term self interest (putting it politely) as touched on by BB and others. https://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/Policy-and-Legislation/Coastal-and-marin "The scheme operates along the entire NSW coastal zone except for the Greater Sydney metropolitan area, identified as between Broken Bay (Central Coast) and the Minnamurra River (south of Shellharbour).". The fucking vandals bulldozed down one of the last remnants of coastal heath to get their heavy equipment in. https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/peter-horton-coastal-engineer. Super difficult problem, maybe councils could buy beachfronts then lease back the properties. Climate projections will have some Australian surfers rejoicing, and others not so. 314k members in the sydney community. On Saturday November 27th hundreds of locals came down to Collaroy Beach / North Narrabeen Beach in grim weather conditions to protest the monstrous 7 meter . That's the only thing stopping all the sand at the base of the wall getting washed away. This is very different to Collaroy. No more excuses for your terrible workmanship anymore. Why would you bother acquiring the affected properties "at any cost", when they're likely to be washed into the sea? Would be interesting to see the state of that beach on the north side of breakwall now, This was the same dune system a few years before all these easterlies. Wetsuits may never be the same again. Make his name famous: Peter Horton. Its like stepping forty years back in time. The Feds and States are the only ones with sufficient means to do anything, but for them its a case of not my problem. You'd think that would then open it up for more legal action (aka why did ABC get first dibs and XYZ missed out?). There's only a loss to be made for the purchases. The only feasible way forward without wasting any more council and tax payers money to protect the properties in question is to acquire the properties at any cost and return them to a naturalised stated. The point i guess im coming to is, and i know an old couple whose property is very exposed to this issue, who have lived there since 1960's and are now in their 80's and likley won't see the impeding issues in their lifetime - but really they have done nothing wrong, bought an old shack in a place they love when no one lived up here, I wouldnt say there are a lot of people left like that but there are a few I know up here a version of that and the whole "screw those rich pricks" mantra is just divisive. Children protest the building of a seawall at Collaroy-Narrabeen in 2002. But if I get burnt out, then someone's going to be held to account"! BB has there been any attempt to take the process to the Land and Environment Court? Spot on. Nature fights back. Here's the full video with audio. On the MP they blew the heads up and the erosion from Portsea front beach to the heads is crazy. "Protective works are a far preferable measure to a vertical seawall," he said. I get informed about a proposed bike lane two suburbs away, questions an aghast Donohoe, but I hear nothing about construction abutting a nearby public beach?, Gordon was equally puzzled: I guess people become frustrated with the bureaucratic process and find ways of not involving the public. 'This Pristine Beach Is One of Japans Last. Any system that affects the coast from a different angle upsets the balance of that orientation and the system then takes considerably more time to re-adjust. Maybe you New South Weleshpeople do things differently. For example, during sunny conditions in Collaroy beach, constructive waves transport eroded sediments from cliffs and headlands to build up the beach. You wouldn't accept that in a bridge from an engineer, so why accept it in anything else? Collaroy Park Estate Narrabeen: Sea View Pde, Beach Rd, Collaroy Ave, Main Pittwater Rd, Govt. NewsDNARaw. It only does BOUSSINESQ wave interaction and NOT sediment transport but you can still get a lot of good design-feedback Lets bring it on. EDIT: Just to be clear, the issue of erosion has nothing to do with sea level rise, climate change, or buying the latest board. All of Ramsgate, Brighton, Kyeemagh, Dolls Point, Scarborough Park and lots more will be underwater in 50 or 100 years time. Sea level rise equation is based on the Bruun Rule to ascertain erosion in open coastal areas like Collaroy. Including the residents behind the great wall. I suppose there are still those with more dollars than sense, but for me, the land is as good as built below the high-tide mark. They are multi millionaire asset owners. More than a year after severe storms damaged property in Collaroy, construction of a long-awaited sea wall is underway. My experience with compulsory acquisition had to do with a Sydney motorway a few years back. Here are the bloke credentials Man, that'd get old real quick, happy to pass. Luckily these sections of the Roads are at the far inside of pointbreaks so the wave energy is mostly weak, with little rebound affect. The majority of these companies are legitimate businesses set up by Yakuza. The idea has never been proposed for Collaroy. 1. Wonder if he has been down there in the last 2 days to check on status of wall? The seawall is probably built over them. I am safely 140m above sea-level now so that should be safefor a while hahaha. Who could forget the MOLE building or the spoil from the North Head Sewage Works tipped over the cliff? I'm a huge tree-hugger but they will not stop powerfull ocean waves. Councils of times gone by should never have approved houses to be built on the beach in known spots of erosion aswell as houses on the beach full stop as sand dunes have there purpose . Looking at that DA via Stu's link, it must have taken a considerable, possibly illegal, effort to keep that out of the hands of those community members with a long record of interest in the matter. Its like something out of a dystopian movie. For Sydney its not just beach suburbs. Completely agree that not all beach owners are cashed up pricks. However, the work then continued skyward with a seven metre vertical concrete wall on top of the foundations. Basically the awarding of contracts falls across a couple of ministries. The coastline in SW Vic has evolved to respond to a dominant SW swell and storm pattern - that's why the beaches face the way they do. Who is going to want to inherit that when they exchange contracts? Caveat emptor..buyer beware. This has cut into the base of the dunes below the surf club. More to come once the other residents agree to pay their contribution. Building up during periods of low swell energy, while being transported into the surf zoneduring periods of high swell energy, acting as a buffer to the incoming surf. Cheers for the knowledge Craig. That's so shithouse I don't know where to start, Zen. >> and the ocean will wash it all away again in the next big swell. Will be interesting after another summer if potential strong easterlies due to the La Nia. Link any useful papers youve found. The total contribution of both the Council and the State is $3.46 million, which is 20 percent of the total cost of construction. Plop! 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